r/nextfuckinglevel • u/flyart • Feb 07 '23
Insane free climber climbing an abandoned building in downtown Phoenix right now
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u/ardenter
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Next level asshole tying up emergency services. I'm sure the spatula crew will be very busy later.
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u/AlbertBrianTross Feb 07 '23
Not interested in his stunt but I don’t think it’s his fault everyone and their mother showed up. Kind of an overreaction from the city’s emergency services imo.
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u/_Atheius_ Feb 07 '23
Right? Two uniforms at the top to arrest him and two at the bottom to make sure no walks into the splash zone. City saved.
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u/defact0o Feb 07 '23
One safety net kind of thingy, if possible just to try to save the asshole
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u/woofridgerator Feb 07 '23 edited Feb 07 '23
From that height the safety net will just make cleanup worse.
Edit: yes I guess if they manage to setup four huge boom lifts with a net suspended between them and hope he falls away from the crevice then he could survive…
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u/Hellament Feb 07 '23
Be like pushing jello through a tennis racket.
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u/TheCloudsBelow Feb 07 '23
Where do I pay to watch this stream?
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u/77GoldenTails Feb 07 '23
It would me more a short gush, followed by large puddle.
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u/SacrilegiousOath Feb 07 '23
You must’ve never seen the video of that guy jumping out of a plane with no parachute into a net the size of a football field. He performed the stunt perfectly, and was unharmed.
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u/Sparky323 Feb 07 '23
If I remember correctly, he still fell several dozen feet while inside the safety net to slow his fall. I'm not sure they could rig up a net that big that quickly, but I guess I wouldn't say impossible. Lol. They'd be better off just dropping a safety rope from the top. Haha or let darwinism run its course.
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u/Lewca43 Feb 07 '23
That should be the case but if he does go splat and the city didn’t pull out all the stops his family would likely sue the city. The city employing CYA 101 here.
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u/Explore-PNW Feb 07 '23
You only need two up top because one would get bored and fall asleep tanning. Give the two a bucket of beer and a couple chairs, best day of work.
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u/Bluegrass6 Feb 07 '23
There is a street right there. You’ve got to block traffic in case he falls or drops something to prevent a potential innocent passerby from being harmed.
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u/Four_Putt_Madness Feb 07 '23
Exactly. I don't care what message or point he is trying to get across, yawn. But it isn't his fault the city overreacted and shit itself. Fun fact, I know the express elevator code to go to the roof of Chase tower.
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u/percadae Feb 07 '23
That fact only seems fun for you though.
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u/Collins_Michael Feb 07 '23
Idk. Now I know who to grab for my upcoming hei... I mean field trip.
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u/labadimp Feb 07 '23
If you have no ropes, and are climbing an area that nobody else can get to, all you need is one cop at the top and one at the bottom. There is no need to send the whole goddamn emergency force. If the climber falls hes dead. If he climbs up hes caught. If he climbs down hes caught. Theres no “saving” someone in the position.
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u/Bluegrass6 Feb 07 '23
You’ve got to block the area off to prevent potential harm to innocent passerby. Someone walking down the sidewalk, driving down the street, riding a bike, etc could be hit and killed by him if he fell or if he dropped something. The area on that side of the building has to be blocked off
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u/EskimoJake Feb 07 '23
Don't know why everyone keeps wanting a cop at the top, he's coming down eventually.
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Actual FD person checking in. Resources required for this incident , at minimum, would likely include: PD blocking vehicle and pedestrian traffic at the end of each block, a ladder truck for lower rescue, inflatable pad if available which would require at least one additional engine for manpower, another engine or two for rooftop personnel for vertical rescue, a Battalion chief, PD located at the top and bottom, and finally an ambulance.
He is likely too high for a ladder rescue but a vertical rescue would be possible. If he was able to climb down, a ladder rescue may be possible. There is absolutely a possibility of “saving“ someone in this scenario, otherwise stranded window washers would have a 100% fatality rate.
Major city emergency personnel have protocols for this kind of thing. This would basically be dispatched the same as a potential jumper. While it looks excessive, the reasons we prepare for every scenario is because at some point, an after action report with a similar incident where someone was severely injured or killed was because the incident lacked one or more of the above listed resources.
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u/rockandrollmark Feb 07 '23
Yep. Selfish behaviour. For anyone that thinks the emergency services don’t need to be there, imagine this headline playing out: A local resident with mental health problems fell to his death today after emergency services failed to respond to alerts from the public that he was attempting to scale an abandoned building without any safety equipment.
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u/DrStrangeLoveOHILTSW Feb 07 '23
I'm a first responder and yes, this is an unnecessary use of our time. Those crews could have been available for people that need them but instead they cannot just ignore this guy. He's a danger to himself and others and first responders have a DUTY to act; meaning they cannot just walk away regardless of whether they think this guy should be left alone.
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u/mzpljc Feb 07 '23
Glad I'm not the only one who sees it like this. Guy can go figure out other ways to be stupid that don't waste emergency responders' time.
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u/halplatmein
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Looks like he made it all the way up https://twitter.com/EricaReportsAll/status/1623015962940436480
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u/Snow-Brigade Feb 07 '23
“Congratulations! Now put your hands behind your back”
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u/ronnietea Feb 07 '23
What will he all be charged with out of curiosity?
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u/SwallowYourDreams Feb 07 '23 •
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Vertical loitering.
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u/CLG91 Feb 07 '23 •
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That's wrong on so many levels
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u/BritishGolgo13 Feb 07 '23
He’ll have plenty of stories to tell
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u/capn_cookie Feb 07 '23
Once you hit rock bottom, there's nowhere to go but up.
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u/xEvil_Twinx Feb 07 '23
Cops won’t fall for that one - bet they take him down..
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u/stacyand14548 Feb 07 '23
Trespassing, disorderly conduct, fail to obey a lawful order…. Etc etc
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u/Pringletache Feb 07 '23
Surely he’s not technically trespassing until he climbs over the top
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u/CotyledonTomen Feb 07 '23
If its a priavte building, youre not on public property the moment your feet leave the ground. Abandoned doesnt mean nobody owns it. It means nobodys watching it. Some bank probably owns the rights.
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u/Redebo Feb 07 '23
It is a private building that is currently vacant for remodel and remarketong to new businesses. Chase bank used to inhabit the tower as the anchor tenant and have since moved out.
Deffo not abandoned tho
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u/enp2s0 Feb 07 '23
Fail to obey probably won't stick, as he likely wasn't told to leave until he was already partway up and his only way to leave was down or up, which the climber did. It's not a lawful order if the order is to plummet to your death.
Trespassing is definitely an option though.
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u/Interesting_Bet_9302 Feb 07 '23
They showed on their own he didn’t ask for them lol
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u/Dr8keMallard Feb 07 '23
This. Its like saying you broke the law and the cops showed up on their own so you shouldn't be charged. If he's doing ANYTHING illegal those services should absolutely be charged to him. Dude knew exactly what he was doing - seriously doubt he cleared it with the building owners and the city beforehand.
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u/LgDietCoke Feb 07 '23
No shit he didn’t, he’s an asshole. There are protocols that have to be followed.
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u/Daniel_H212 Feb 07 '23
Reckless endangerment I guess. He could have fallen and killed someone down below.
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u/MelonElbows Feb 07 '23
The real crime was building a gap wide enough for a person to free climb. Have these architects never done this at home when they were kids?
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u/slappyclappers Feb 07 '23
Is the building abandoned because they forgot to put windows in it?
maybe they just have pictures of the outdoors plastered on the walls inside.
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u/ComeAndGetYourPug Feb 07 '23
The majority of the building is all windows - the camera is just zoomed in on that one section.
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u/MmmBearCookies Feb 07 '23
As an architect, I’m always surprised to see peoples faith in the fasteners holding the concrete cladding in place. Watch out for the ones installed on a Friday afternoon.
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u/InvideoSilenti Feb 07 '23
Now I get to add a new fear to life. The possibility of one of these randomly falling off and Wlle E. Coyoting me as i walk by.
Just kidding. I don't go downtown anyway. :)
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u/kyallroad Feb 07 '23
You’d think that parking garage walls would be pretty well secured as well….
But a while back in my town a pregnant woman learned that an F-150 can tap one out quite easily and splat you into a pancake.
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u/pauciradiatus Feb 07 '23
That's a lesson you'll remember for the rest of your life
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u/disillusioned Feb 07 '23
Well, the obit for that woman has a still active comments field that will just break your heart. She had a young baby at home, too.
Absolutely crazy fluke and I hope the owner's had to pay out an insane judgment to the family.
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u/Grippenripp Feb 07 '23
As a construction worker I often scratch my head on the decisions you make. These are very well constructed concrete panels. Bolted on to steel framing. Might even be welded. Regardless, they aint going anywhere. You think they would want that liability if one fell and killed someone. Now go back to work on your "architecture" and stop being a drama queen.
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u/OldMango Feb 07 '23 edited Feb 08 '23
Ah, the duality of man, architects and engineers looking down on the blue collar guys "they'll probably do it wrong, and then complain about it"
and the workers cursing out those "stuck up pricks who haven't seen grass since they got their degree".
But yet together manage to achieve all the amazing things we have today.
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u/Rock_or_Rol Feb 08 '23
While working for a forensic engineer, i can attest that stupidity has no allegiance to any one profession. However… fault typically arose from from the laziness/greediness of the contractor and subcontractors >.> I can’t tell you how many millions of dollars of damage I have seen arise from shortcuts to save five minutes here and there
With all that being said, I’d bet good tradesmen and contractors are a better deterrent of bad building. So I doubt I have the full picture
Also. Architects are the stuckups. In my experience, engineers and structural trades more often saw eye to eye in how to realistically build the damned thing. Although, there’s a few engineers lurking out there that’ll complain about the odd sheathing nail pattern being 1/8” off 😱
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u/thpthpthp Feb 07 '23
Also work construction, there's a good chance they are half-assed, but that doesn't mean 1 dude is gonna move them--even with his whole-ass.
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u/referralcrosskill Feb 07 '23
yep engineers over design and corners are cut on installation and it all works out just fine...
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u/meowsmusic Feb 07 '23
I saw a video last week of one of these crumbling and the guy fell 15 stories
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u/SuperGenius98K Feb 07 '23
Is this that same religious kook?
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u/3SquirrelsinaCoat Feb 07 '23
Yeah, he tweeted halfway up he was doing it as an anti-abortion thing.
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u/SuperGenius98K Feb 07 '23
He's breaking the law to show how much he hates women's healthcare rights?
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u/SwallowYourDreams Feb 07 '23
He probably figured it's what Jesus would do.
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u/sparkle_lotion Feb 07 '23 edited Feb 08 '23
Yea it is. He also rarely gets charges pressed on him because he does it to “protest” abortion. He did that in the city where I live and everyone went from wanting him hanged for doing it to commending him on his cause….
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u/Ok_Yogurtcloset8915 Feb 07 '23
seriously? that's so stupid, sooner or later he's going to slip and traumatize some emts.
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u/thunder_shart Feb 07 '23
I guess that just means that he'll be aborted by the building 🤷♂️
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u/ComfortableFig6868 Feb 08 '23
He’ll be proving that abortion is the right option as his parents should have had one.
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u/boozyperkins Feb 07 '23
Is it still abandoned if someone is using it?
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u/Keeblerliketheelf Feb 07 '23
Tallest building in Arizona, not abandoned.
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u/tyriancomyn Feb 07 '23
It’s not abandoned… but it’s been vacant since Sept 2021 and has no future plans for tenants at this point.
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u/mastermind1228 Feb 07 '23
Probably not abandoned. It could be a data center for the NSA. Major cities have concrete buildings like that all around the country.
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u/Hesticles Feb 07 '23
It’s not abandoned. It’s right in the middle of downtown and it’s only this part of the facade that is concrete it’s got a standard skyscraper type of glass facade on the other side.
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u/VWtdi2001 Feb 07 '23
It's not the fall. It's the splat at the bottom that is the problem.
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u/yeahjmoney Feb 07 '23 edited Feb 08 '23
In the immortal words of Jeremy Clarkson: Speed has never killed anyone, it's suddenly becoming stationary.
Edit: I suppose there's a bit of context to his quote and that is he was talking about speed limits on motorways. But I extended its application to this as well. Yes, it is true that going from 0 to very fast can also kill you so I suppose it's as someone else observed it's sudden acceleration (deceleration being acceleration in the negative) that kills you.
Edit 2: I also probably butchered the quote so get mad at me before you get mad at Jezza.
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u/chemical_refraction Feb 07 '23
Hmmm looks like he needs to see the death rollercoaster designed for humane executions.
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u/annies_boobs_feet Feb 07 '23
that's not speed, that's acceleration. spaceships go way faster than the deathcoaster, but they do it without as extreme of acceleration as the deathcoaster.
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u/2b-Kindly_ Feb 07 '23 edited Feb 07 '23
Most Pro life protesters will do anything for attention, BUT ADOPT a child they are trying to save. This is pro life Spider man. I have asked some of them and they say " that's not the point" and " this has nothing to do with it" ?? What does that even mean.
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u/jeenyusz Feb 07 '23
Pro-Life isn’t concerned with what happens after they are born and quite frankly it seems they fall into the category that is all about anti-welfare, anti-government “handouts” etc etc.
So save a life to turn around and tell them to pull themselves up from their boot straps. It’s a heavy conundrum.
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u/monkeywench Feb 07 '23
So it was “his body, his choice” to climb that high and waste emergency services to take away “her body, her choice” in addition to how many other lives might have been risked due to missing emergency assistance. Typical anti-choice asshat 🙄
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u/Neat-Ad-9550 Feb 07 '23
Think I know that guy. His name is Peter Parker.
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u/medicated_in_PHL Feb 07 '23
He literally calls himself “Pro-life Spider-Man”.
Yep. This was a stunt to raise money for the pro-life activist group he’s a part of.
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u/lgood77 Feb 07 '23
To convince a disabled girl to not get an abortion according to his own vids...
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u/some_body_else Feb 07 '23
He's so pro life that he free climbed a 40 story building with no safety equipment.
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u/medicated_in_PHL Feb 07 '23
Fuck the laws, he can do whatever he wants with his body. You on the other hand….
They’re are least consistent.
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u/OddballRox Feb 07 '23
Why do we send emergency services at all? They fall, that’s on them. Just have a cop there to arrest them if they make it and a hose at the bottom in case they don’t.
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u/fartmitten Feb 07 '23
Seriously. Waste of resources. If he falls, there's no way that fire truck and ambulance will be able to save him.
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u/cleetus_maximus Feb 07 '23
Ambulance to transport the body and water hose to clean up the mess left behind
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u/Stefanthro Feb 07 '23 edited Feb 07 '23 •
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What do you mean? I expect them to fire the hose, and for the climber to endless spin on the water stream as they lower the pressure and safely bring him down.
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u/little_lexodus Feb 07 '23
I'm assuming they set-up some perimeter so that he doesn't kill someone on the ground if he falls down
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u/YourPlot Feb 07 '23
We send emergency services just like we do for any asshole who puts himself and/or others in danger. Same for a drunk driver, lost hiker who thought they knew what they were doing, or a surfer who went out when the waves were too big.
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u/conbar93 Feb 07 '23
He calls himself pro-life Spiderman and he has done stuff like this before. It's a stunt to raise money for his anti-abortion cause.
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u/JeffWingrsDumbGayDad Feb 08 '23
This post is right beneath the one in /r/PublicFreakout on my feed, but that's from the climber's perspective. Had to do a double take when I saw the building here.
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u/louloc Feb 07 '23
It used to be the tallest building in Phoenix. I’m pretty sure it still is. It’s currently being renovated. I just saw on the news a few months ago that it was empty. I had no idea and I live here. 🤷🏻♂️
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u/DeepThroatShrimpies Feb 07 '23 edited Feb 07 '23
If your the right distance away and When the sun hits it just right in the late afternoon/sunset you can see through all the the empty floors and see the elevator columns. at least I remember being able to at one point recently.
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u/misologous Feb 07 '23
Nah this kind of stuff shouldn’t be encouraged. One misstep and they’ll have to scrape that person off the pavement
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u/Shady_Scientist Feb 07 '23
It was done by an anti-abortion activist. kinda lost all impressiveness when I found that out.
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u/Qudit314159 Feb 07 '23
Actually, that's free soloing which is a specific type of free climbing. Free climbing in general (in contrast to aid climbing) means ascending without attaching devices to the rock that you can pull or step on to make it easier to move upwards.
Free climbing and free soloing are often confused by the public but in fact the vast majority of free climbing is done with a rope.
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u/fappyday Feb 07 '23
He's a pro-life activist who is trying to raise money to give to a disabled woman to convince her not to get an abortion. He's also tying up emergency services and blocking traffic.
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u/allen5az Feb 07 '23
Stop giving this douche oxygen. Just another hateful jerk dying for attention.
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u/shophopper Feb 07 '23
Why are there so many emergency services? He can only fall to his death once.
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u/Jokulhaups72 Feb 07 '23
Not sure if anyone has said this already. But he did get arrested once he got to the top, and this is the chase building in downtown Phoenix.
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u/Drnstvns Feb 07 '23
Stupid, selfish waste of resources that could be attending real emergencies. There’s nothing brave, cool or amazing about this.
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u/maninplainview Feb 07 '23
FUCK YOU, I'M SUCTION CUP MAN!
Oh wow, look at me go!
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u/grantnel2002 Feb 07 '23
What always surprises me is their confidence that they won’t totally run out of energy halfway up. Too tired to go up, too difficult to go back down.